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WPS 竟然比 Excel 快?

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  •   liantian · 2022-01-05 11:42:14 +08:00 · 16881 次点击
    这是一个创建于 1051 天前的主题,其中的信息可能已经有所发展或是发生改变。

    看 /t/826087 这个帖子有感,突然想测试下 wps 处理 excel 的性能,遂 Google 搜索 xls benchmark ,然后搜索到了这么一个。

    benchmark 来源:

    https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/what-quick-benchmarks-to-run-on-a-server-with-128-threads-lose-access-to-it-in-a-few-hours.2593997/

    下载地址:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tVTAdP6WczJvlEAJNGhZXX87UJXH6vAV/view

    体积超过 virscan.org 的限制,自行杀毒。

    我的电脑比较弱,i5-8250U

    正版 excel (随机附送 Home 版):146 秒

    正版 WPS 2019 无云(企业购买):13 秒

    这个 11 倍的差距有点超乎认知....有没有大佬分析下什么原理?

    w

    第 1 条附言  ·  2022-01-05 16:43:05 +08:00

    其实我只是想单纯的讨论下为啥会有这么大差距的背后的技术原因

    作为一个python开发,很多惊讶点啊:

    1. 本以为wps和excel的差距会使py2和py2的差距,没想到是CPython和PyPy那种差距,是PHP7相对PHP5的那种差距.

    2. 竟然是wps领先。

    3. 还不是简单的WPS多线程,EXCEL单线程这样。

    当然好奇这背后的原因。按照经验,一个涉及这么多算法的C++工程,显然不是优化一点代码可以改善的。

    137 条回复    2022-03-10 15:35:11 +08:00
    1  2  
    yingba
        101
    yingba  
       2022-01-06 06:50:50 +08:00 via Android
    @liantian 可以看一下 wps 的内存增量,有惊喜
    All2B9S
        102
    All2B9S  
       2022-01-06 06:59:32 +08:00
    用 numbers 打开这个文档,风扇已经在咆哮了,而且一直显示“正在计算”
    All2B9S
        103
    All2B9S  
       2022-01-06 07:11:53 +08:00
    还有就是在 numbers 里点击“Benchmark”没有反应 ,不知道是怎么回事
    tyzrj766
        104
    tyzrj766  
       2022-01-06 08:46:48 +08:00
    i5-8259U ,点下鼠标到打开是 10s ,最新版的 WPS
    benchmark 那个按钮好像点不了,估计是没有什么 VBA ,不支持运行?点击详情后要加钱换企业版才能用
    encro
        105
    encro  
       2022-01-06 08:50:48 +08:00
    WPS 缺陷也是明显的:
    1 ,有时候排版不正确,没有正确处理溢出问题,经常 word 打开 2 页,WPS 打开 1 页;
    2 ,字体没有时,自动找的替代字体非常随意,经常是简体换繁体,楷体换草体;
    3 ,经常更新下,一看就是加了一个广告位。
    sudoy
        106
    sudoy  
       2022-01-06 08:52:29 +08:00 via iPhone   ❤️ 2
    最近 wps 广告这么多,是因为年底冲业绩?
    zxcslove
        107
    zxcslove  
       2022-01-06 09:07:55 +08:00   ❤️ 1
    还是农村包围城市的老剧情啦。
    微软的东西好多都和“快”字没啥关系,只是 Excel 的强大很多都和普通人无关罢了,WPS 确实有它的优势。
    Eagleyes
        108
    Eagleyes  
       2022-01-06 09:15:41 +08:00
    亲测,office365 最新版。打开用时 14-16s 。似乎并非不可接受。

    系统版本 Win10 21H2 16G+SSD 。CPU i7 3770. 3.2GHz 够古老吗?

    楼主的慢是否考虑笔记本没插电降频? RAM 不足?不是 SSD 问题?

    其实楼上大家已经说了,自己用用,看看,WPS“免费”还轻量化。

    但是跟人对接尤其是对格式有要求的,office 不解释。

    WPS 感觉就是把 office 绝大多数人常用的 5%-10%的功能提取出来,甚至打包自动更简洁,类似于美图秀秀之于 PS
    chinaqzxh
        109
    chinaqzxh  
       2022-01-06 09:22:14 +08:00
    实测 WPS 更好用 开会员更爽
    Jwyt
        110
    Jwyt  
       2022-01-06 09:32:47 +08:00
    @Eagleyes 不是打开用时。。是跑分 点击 benchmark
    jiangyang123
        111
    jiangyang123  
       2022-01-06 09:39:28 +08:00
    免费的才是最贵的,所以比较时最好请都用收费版
    ColinZeb
        112
    ColinZeb  
       2022-01-06 09:40:09 +08:00
    R7 5800H /Office365 /28.66s
    ShareDuck
        113
    ShareDuck  
       2022-01-06 09:49:08 +08:00
    @wangkun025 我们企业,用的就是 WPS ,九万多人,你总不能说我们不是真正的企业吧。不过我在自己的电脑上使用的是 Office ,因为界面美观一点。
    xz410236056
        114
    xz410236056  
       2022-01-06 09:50:19 +08:00
    微软已经在布局 powerBI 了。。
    vopsoft
        115
    vopsoft  
       2022-01-06 09:56:06 +08:00
    excel 2016 默认带 dde 检测 打开文件慢 可以修改注册表解决( excel 2016 64 位测试过 ,其他版本导入前 注意备份)

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.Sheet.12\shell\Open]

    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.Sheet.12\shell\Open]
    @="@%CommonProgramFiles%\\Microsoft Shared\\Office16\\oregres.dll,-3"

    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.Sheet.12\shell\Open\command]
    @="\"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Office\\Root\\Office16\\EXCEL.EXE\" /e \"%1\""
    "command"=hex(7):7a,00,6e,00,3d,00,42,00,56,00,35,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,\
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    00,58,00,3d,00,24,00,20,00,20,00,2f,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,00,31,00,22,00,\
    00,00,00,00


    [-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.CSV\shell\Open]

    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.CSV\shell\Open]
    @="@%CommonProgramFiles%\\Microsoft Shared\\Office16\\oregres.dll,-3"

    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.CSV\shell\Open\command]
    @="\"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Office\\Root\\Office16\\EXCEL.EXE\" /e \"%1\""
    "command"=hex(7):7a,00,6e,00,3d,00,42,00,56,00,35,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,\
    34,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,4d,00,4b,00,4b,00,53,00,6b,00,45,00,58,00,43,\
    00,45,00,4c,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,3e,00,5d,00,2d,00,7a,00,35,00,\
    68,00,77,00,24,00,6c,00,5b,00,38,00,51,00,65,00,5a,00,5a,00,52,00,34,00,5f,\
    00,58,00,3d,00,24,00,20,00,20,00,2f,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,00,31,00,22,00,\
    00,00,00,00


    [-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.Sheet.8\shell\Open]

    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.Sheet.8\shell\Open]
    @="@%CommonProgramFiles%\\Microsoft Shared\\Office16\\oregres.dll,-3"

    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.Sheet.8\shell\Open\command]
    @="\"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Office\\Root\\Office16\\EXCEL.EXE\" /e \"%1\""
    "command"=hex(7):7a,00,6e,00,3d,00,42,00,56,00,35,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,\
    34,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,4d,00,4b,00,4b,00,53,00,6b,00,45,00,58,00,43,\
    00,45,00,4c,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,3e,00,5d,00,2d,00,7a,00,35,00,\
    68,00,77,00,24,00,6c,00,5b,00,38,00,51,00,65,00,5a,00,5a,00,52,00,34,00,5f,\
    00,58,00,3d,00,24,00,20,00,20,00,2f,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,00,31,00,22,00,\
    00,00,00,00
    uni
        116
    uni  
       2022-01-06 09:58:48 +08:00
    我对 wps 的印象还是一堆广告和弹窗,就跟其他的国产玩意一样,“脏”
    我更喜欢清爽的界面,不知道现在怎么样了
    beijiaoff
        117
    beijiaoff  
       2022-01-06 10:10:06 +08:00
    @vopsoft 请问 dde 检测的 dde 是什么意思
    hsqujy
        118
    hsqujy  
       2022-01-06 10:12:13 +08:00
    1 、兼容:与大部分人一致
    2 、稳定:关键时刻别掉链子

    兼容来说 WPS 差一些
    稳定来说,PPT 遇到过第一个、第二个可以 F5 全屏,第三个开始不行了,这就是关键时刻,遇到一次一辈子不用
    cassidyhere
        119
    cassidyhere  
       2022-01-06 10:25:47 +08:00
    xls 是二进制不谈,xlsx 其实是一个压缩文件,解压后 sheet 在 xl\worksheets 目录下,一个 sheet 对应一个 xml ,xml 除了描述数据还有布局、样式等。要想解析快,可以 1.解析 xml 比别人快; 2.舍弃非核心功能的解析。
    SlipStupig
        120
    SlipStupig  
       2022-01-06 10:33:51 +08:00
    我在 16 年的时候骂过 WPS ( https://v2ex.com/t/275450 ), 目前 mac 版本还行而且我也付费了,不知道目前 windows 有没有改善
    vopsoft
        121
    vopsoft  
       2022-01-06 11:07:38 +08:00
    Myprajna
        122
    Myprajna  
       2022-01-06 13:46:38 +08:00
    计算机等级考试网上,有一个 WPS 官方教育版,没广告。
    qqg1530
        123
    qqg1530  
       2022-01-06 14:08:32 +08:00 via Android
    wps 专业性比不过 office ,单纯处理简单文档还是绰绰有余
    wangkun025
        124
    wangkun025  
       2022-01-06 15:27:46 +08:00
    @ShareDuck 是我绝对了。顺便问下,你们是国企?
    muxueqz
        125
    muxueqz  
       2022-01-06 17:49:00 +08:00
    @xlsepiphone 以前出过 WPS Mail ,现在好像停止开发了,Outlook/Exchange 这块的坑也很大,不是一下子就能攻克的吧
    wegbjwjm
        126
    wegbjwjm  
       2022-01-07 09:36:48 +08:00 via iPhone
    Wps 每次想支持它,它就奔溃给我看
    RainCats
        127
    RainCats  
       2022-01-07 16:23:21 +08:00
    @dufu1991 跟别人频繁对接的应该两样都要 [受虐滑稽]
    RainCats
        128
    RainCats  
       2022-01-07 16:24:13 +08:00
    @MsHan 用 wps 电脑都卡?那 office 应该会更卡,有时间测试一下?
    iilxy
        129
    iilxy  
       2022-01-07 16:45:17 +08:00
    office 编辑保存的文档经常会出错,用 office 打不开的情况大家都没遇到过吗?同样的文件用 wps 打开就没问题。
    lucacham
        130
    lucacham  
       2022-01-13 15:22:16 +08:00
    WPS+超级会员 差不多用了一年了,搭配同步功能和他的 WPS 网盘,对我自己来说非常好用,有好几次文档编辑失误找回前几个版本的历史文档救命。
    我就是不喜欢 MS OFFICE ,摊手,onedrive 也很难用,反正我用 Google drive
    maichaide
        131
    maichaide  
       2022-01-15 20:33:18 +08:00
    wps2019 专业增强版(带 VBA )跑了下 11.66 秒,WPS 表格在处理大量数据时,无论是文件打开速度还是公式运算速度都要比 EXCEL 快很多,一开始没想到,对于搞大量数据分析来说,WPS 表格比 EXCEL 好用很多。
    maichaide
        132
    maichaide  
       2022-01-15 20:47:39 +08:00
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    maichaide
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       2022-01-15 21:05:32 +08:00
    maichaide
        134
    maichaide  
       2022-01-15 21:27:51 +08:00
    ![wps 测试](//i.imgur.com/TZRb1N4.png)
    atrexl
        135
    atrexl  
       2022-01-17 10:54:18 +08:00
    @hinataharuki 已经支持了啊
    maichaide
        136
    maichaide  
       2022-01-22 18:57:25 +08:00
    @Eagleyes 已经排除硬件配置和功能精简,也并非美图秀秀之于 PS 这样的类比
    cco
        137
    cco  
       2022-03-10 15:35:11 +08:00
    mac15 款,打开一个带图片 130M 的 word ,敲一个字需要 7 秒。WPS 三秒左右。换 win 虚拟机 wps 很流畅,多年 office 365 订阅用户,我 69 买了一年的 wps 会员。文档同步还可以,但也有小缺陷。目前有点动摇,是否还需要续费 office365 的必要。
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