上个月看 V2EX 的帖子注册了一个 ibm.party 的域名，今天收到 ibm 的威胁邮件
fengjianxinghun · 2015-05-30 09:31:18 +08:00 via iPad · 11828 次点击这是一个创建于 3452 天前的主题，其中的信息可能已经有所发展或是发生改变。
怎么破？
第 1 条附言 · 2015-05-30 10:28:39 +08:00
International Business Machines Corporation (IBM) owns several federal trademark registrations for IBM including, among others, Registration No. 1,205,090 in International Classes 1, 7, 9, 16, 37, 41 and 42; Registration No. 1,243,930 in International Class 42; Registration Nos. 1,694,814 and 1,696,454 in International Class 36; and Registration No. 4,181,289 in International Classes 6, 8, 9, 11, 14, 16, 18, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26, 28, 30, 35, and 41. These registrations are conclusive proof of the validity of the IBM mark and of our rights in that mark.
IBM has invested substantial time, effort and money to develop the goodwill associated with the IBM mark. As a result of these investments, the public immediately identifies the IBM mark with our information technology products and services. As you may ascertain from the foregoing, our intellectual property rights are enormously valuable assets, which we will act to protect.
It has recently come to our attention that you have registered the domain name ibm.party. Your unauthorized registration of a domain name incorporating the IBM mark and your use of that domain name as such violates our rights under the Federal Trademark Act, the Anti-cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act and the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy, and entitles us to seek both injunctive relief and monetary damages against you.
In view of the foregoing, we demand that you immediately disable and transfer the domain name ibm.party to IBM. In addition, we ask that you provide us a list of any other domain names that you own that incorporate the IBM mark, and that you agree to similarly disable and transfer all such domain names. Finally, we ask that you do not register any domain names incorporating the IBM mark in the future.
To avoid further damage, we demand that you confirm in writing your intention to comply with the above demands by June 12, 2015.
IBM has invested substantial time, effort and money to develop the goodwill associated with the IBM mark. As a result of these investments, the public immediately identifies the IBM mark with our information technology products and services. As you may ascertain from the foregoing, our intellectual property rights are enormously valuable assets, which we will act to protect.
It has recently come to our attention that you have registered the domain name ibm.party. Your unauthorized registration of a domain name incorporating the IBM mark and your use of that domain name as such violates our rights under the Federal Trademark Act, the Anti-cybersquatting Consumer Protection Act and the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy, and entitles us to seek both injunctive relief and monetary damages against you.
In view of the foregoing, we demand that you immediately disable and transfer the domain name ibm.party to IBM. In addition, we ask that you provide us a list of any other domain names that you own that incorporate the IBM mark, and that you agree to similarly disable and transfer all such domain names. Finally, we ask that you do not register any domain names incorporating the IBM mark in the future.
To avoid further damage, we demand that you confirm in writing your intention to comply with the above demands by June 12, 2015.
第 2 条附言 · 2015-05-30 14:36:22 +08:00
回邮件了，我就说看不懂英文，我这个域名是i be man party 的大男子主义党派用的，我不知道什么IBM公司。如果你们要起诉请自便。
第 3 条附言 · 2015-07-23 11:00:48 +08:00
ibm回信了
你好，
谢谢你的回信。秉持着公平的原则，IBM现向你提出如下提议从你处购买ibm.party这个域名：
我方将支付你合理的注册该域名的实际开销，不超过美金$100，以换取该域名的所有权。
如果你同意接受我方的开价，请尽快将你的回价（不超过美金$100) 告知我们。谢谢！
IBM 知识产权法律部
Hello,
Thank you for your response. According to the principle of fairness, IBM is offering to purchase the domain name ibm.party from you based on the following terms:
We will provide you with reasonable out of pocket expenses for registering this domain name, not to exceed $100 USD, in exchange for the ownership of the domain name.
If you agree to our offer, please inform us of your acceptance price (not to exceed $100 USD) as soon as possible. Thank you!
IBM IP Law Department
你好，
谢谢你的回信。秉持着公平的原则，IBM现向你提出如下提议从你处购买ibm.party这个域名：
我方将支付你合理的注册该域名的实际开销，不超过美金$100，以换取该域名的所有权。
如果你同意接受我方的开价，请尽快将你的回价（不超过美金$100) 告知我们。谢谢！
IBM 知识产权法律部
Hello,
Thank you for your response. According to the principle of fairness, IBM is offering to purchase the domain name ibm.party from you based on the following terms:
We will provide you with reasonable out of pocket expenses for registering this domain name, not to exceed $100 USD, in exchange for the ownership of the domain name.
If you agree to our offer, please inform us of your acceptance price (not to exceed $100 USD) as soon as possible. Thank you!
IBM IP Law Department
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111111111111 2015-05-30 09:36:17 +08:00 via Android
只要不使用 没什么关系吧
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loveyu 2015-05-30 09:36:23 +08:00
忽略之，你又没有干坏事
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zhaoxiting1997 2015-05-30 09:37:13 +08:00 via Android
。。。。。卖给ibm啊
我记得注册时候的大概看了一下提示好像是如果侵犯他的商标，要求收回域名。如果你不侵犯好像没有理由收回。 |
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crazyxin1988 2015-05-30 09:37:35 +08:00
好吓人 吓死鸟
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lingo233 2015-05-30 09:44:08 +08:00  2
然后楼主发帖声称好怕怕，我在中国你咬我。然后ibm报告给某party。某party说世界上只有一个party，遂be GFWed
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fengjianxinghun OP @zhaoxiting1997 我解析到了我的blog，违反规则么？
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x86 2015-05-30 09:47:00 +08:00
好吓人，赶紧回了个lol压压惊
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DreamCMS 2015-05-30 10:15:55 +08:00
现在解析一个 sexy.ibm.party
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zhaoxiting1997 2015-05-30 10:16:06 +08:00 via Android
专门找了个canon.party看了一下提示信息，没有注册谁想要就拿去好了
A trademark claim was found for this domain... Please read and acknowledge the trademark agreement below to continue with your purchase. Trademark Notice You have received this Trademark Notice because you have applied for a domain name which matches at least one trademark record submitted to the Trademark Clearinghouse. You may or may not be entitled to register the domain name depending on your intended use and whether it is the same or significantly overlaps with the trademarks listed below. YOUR RIGHTS TO REGISTER THIS DOMAIN NAME MAY OR MAY NOT BE PROTECTED AS NONCOMMERCIAL USE OR “FAIR USE” BY THE LAWS OF YOUR COUNTRY. Please read the trademark information below carefully, including the trademarks, jurisdictions, and goods and service for which the trademarks are registered. Please be aware that not all jurisdictions review trademark applications closely, so some of the trademark information below may exist in a national or regional registry which does not conduct a thorough or substantive review of trademark rights prior to registration. If you have questions, you may want to consult an attorney or legal expert on trademarks and intellectual property for guidance. If you continue with this registration, you represent that, you have received and you understand this notice and to the best of your knowledge, your registration and use of the requested domain name will not infringe on the trademark rights listed below. The following 1 Trademarks are listed in the Trademark Clearinghouse: 1.Mark: Canon Jurisdiction: Office for Harmonization in the Internal Market (Trademarks and Designs) (OHIM) Trademark Registrant: Organization: City: State: Postal Code: Country: Trademark Registrant Contact: Name: Organization: City: State: Postal Code: Country: Phone: Email: Goods & Services: 省略了一堆具体信息 For more information concerning the records included in this notice, see http://claims.clearinghouse.org |
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zhchbin 2015-05-30 10:20:40 +08:00
挺好奇邮件内容的。请问具体是怎么说的呢？
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simapple 2015-05-30 10:22:13 +08:00
商标 专利 就是资本家 用来敲诈和恐吓的工具， 查查看吧 有多少奇葩的商标
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yingluck 2015-05-30 10:24:11 +08:00
直接说威胁邮件貌似有点扣帽子的嫌疑
建议楼主把邮件贴出来 大家也好帮你想办法 |
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kisshere 2015-05-30 10:26:06 +08:00 2
你为啥不抢先发封威胁邮件给IBM：为啥抢我的ibm.com域名
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fengjianxinghun OP @yingluck append长度不够，删了一部分。。主体在。
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adjusted 2015-05-30 10:30:15 +08:00
快成立ibm党
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Quaintjade 2015-05-30 10:44:46 +08:00 via Android
网站的内容不要和IBM这家公司相关。
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Pixel 2015-05-30 10:47:31 +08:00
楼主赶紧去做个1024网站，压压惊
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wy315700 2015-05-30 10:51:05 +08:00
不用理会，有本事他咬你啊
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fengjianxinghun OP @Quaintjade 无关，是我的blog。。
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kn007 2015-05-30 10:53:11 +08:00
怕什么，一些外国学校的名字的域名还是黄色网站呢。。
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loading 2015-05-30 10:54:47 +08:00
如果你域名信息被保护，你就不会收到这个信了，他没法联系到你。
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catface 2015-05-30 10:56:39 +08:00
回个邮件说看不懂英文，不知道你们在说什么
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zaqxsw123nm 2015-05-30 11:03:34 +08:00 via Android 1
就是。回个中文给他。说我看不懂。(≧▽≦)
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CRASON 2015-05-30 11:26:28 +08:00
爱爸妈，敬老网站挺好
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Fly1993 2015-05-30 11:28:02 +08:00
这是律师函吧……
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zhaoxiting1997 2015-05-30 11:30:32 +08:00 via Android
好吧，楼上说错了，楼主这个域名很可能是保不住了的，建议楼主看看这些案例，除了第一个申诉，其他都是败诉的
http://domainnamewire.com/2014/07/08/frank-schilling-beats-ibm-in-domain-dispute/ http://www.domaindisputes.co/search?domain_case_basic%5Bprovider%5D=&domain_case_basic%5Bfield%5D=domains&domain_case_basic%5Btext%5D=ibm 最有参考性的是这个 http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/word/2014/d2014-1641.doc 一个中国人注册了ibmfog.com未解析，最后还是给ibm了。其中有提到ibm提出100美元的补偿，我建议楼主和IBM协商一下，免费注册的域名拿了补偿就挺好了。 另外如果域名注册时选的是中国的话，用中文和ibm交流应该没有问题 |
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aurorax 2015-05-30 11:35:01 +08:00
做个站
Illegal Baby Mouse Party 告诉他们你是专门管老鼠超生的党派 说不定会赢（逃 |
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mrjoel 2015-05-30 11:47:29 +08:00
你就给他回：what fucking you say？I cant' speak English。（Translated by Google Translating.）
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undeflife 2015-05-30 12:00:12 +08:00
你就说你注册的是18m(18摸)的脑残体好了
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wolfan 2015-05-30 12:08:38 +08:00
楼上说的对，在作个页面，把韦小宝和他的七房姨太太们放上去。
来问你了，你就说你太爱韦小宝了，这是为了纪念他而创建的~ |
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chiu 2015-05-30 12:12:59 +08:00
google.中國
google.香港 之前查的时候也还没注册 |
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bellchu 2015-05-30 12:19:18 +08:00 via iPhone
你再注册个IBM.SUCKS IBM.FART
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paulagent 2015-05-30 12:21:06 +08:00
没法破，ibm要是想拿回去就可以打官司，这种著名商标抢注是没有效果的。 我记得有很多案例支持这个，你注册weixin。com，可以让企鹅花大价钱买回去，但是注册一个已经存在100年的企业是不可以的。
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mcone 2015-05-30 12:23:45 +08:00
不用理会，这公司的文案纯粹sb，哪有要域名还这么强硬的
只要你不要建一个fake的IBM站点抹黑/山寨/做相关领域，其他你爱咋咋的都可以，他们也没有办法做什么事情的 话说你可以回邮件，开一个高价，看他们怎么说 |
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zhaoxiting1997 2015-05-30 12:42:29 +08:00 via Android
楼上说不用管的都是在误导，请看我之前发的连接，里面的案例没有几个胜诉的。
再看看这个 http://www.adrforum.com/domaindecisions/1583877D.htm 也是一个中国人，注册了ibm.商城，根据URS被停用了。 还有URS的规则中有[URS 1.2.6.3] The domain name(s) was/were registered and is being used in bad faith. a. Registrant has registered or acquired the domain name primarily for the purpose of selling, renting or otherwise transferring the domain name registration to the complainant who is the owner of the trademark or service mark or to a competitor of that complainant, for valuable consideration in excess of documented out-of pocket costs directly related to the domain name; or 为了出售而注册的域名可以被停用。因此楼主不能直接开价给IBM，而是让他们给予补偿 |
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ikaros 2015-05-30 12:55:40 +08:00
让他来中国打你啊
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Daddy 2015-05-30 13:42:07 +08:00
楼上的貌似都没遇到过吧。
LZ，你这个还是初级阶段，这只是企业法律部给你发警告电邮而已。 我嘛，企业法律部发警告信遇到过；跨国公司已找了北京的知识产权律师事务所发警告信也遇到（看到了授权书），就差正式上庭交锋还没遇到过…… |
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GPU 2015-05-30 14:25:41 +08:00
1024 网站哈哈哈
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fengjianxinghun OP 回邮件了，我就说看不懂英文，我这个域名是i be man party 的大男子主义党派用的，我不知道什么IBM公司。如果你们要起诉请自便。
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dreamcountry 2015-05-30 14:40:47 +08:00
@fengjianxinghun 坐看进展
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ceclinux 2015-05-30 14:49:58 +08:00 via Android
这事真够恶心，lz只是做私人博客而已，邮件一副we demand的嘴脸。
连ibmfog都会有问题我也是无语了。那以后我域名里面有aa难道还要被American Airlines告？有ee难道要被Everything Everywhere告？ |
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Orzzzz 2015-05-30 15:16:35 +08:00
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MASAILA 2015-05-30 15:21:28 +08:00
哈哈哈哈 支持楼主回中文
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paulagent 2015-05-30 15:22:45 +08:00 1
@ceclinux 这个并不是恶心，你知道有康帅傅，实际上注册商标的时候，企业会把很多相似，相近的统统注册到，这就是为了阻止别人伪造和自己看起来一样的产品从而损害自己企业利益的一种方式。
随便去火车站附近的小商店里走一圈，你就能看到无数看起来像名牌，拿到手里仔细看看和名牌一点关系都没有的产品。 你的域名有aa并不会有什么关系，毕竟aa可以有无数种缩写，但是你的域名里有American Airlines试试 |
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xuwenmang 2015-05-30 15:38:16 +08:00
这种域名没多大价值。商标保护的，你注册了就等于帮人家养着了。。
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ahcat 2015-05-30 16:03:39 +08:00 via iPhone
在注册的时候，就提示过了。
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hyangyt 2015-05-30 16:14:15 +08:00
IBM 应该给你钱赎回来。
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ceclinux 2015-05-30 16:34:15 +08:00
@paulagent 这方面我是不懂。但是作为博客的话和产品和商业没有什么关系。这样做对比不是很贴切吧。
aa可以有无数种缩写，ibm缩写少，那界限在哪里呢。 |
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fengjianxinghun OP |
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shyrock 2015-05-30 17:05:03 +08:00
建议查一下注册时的提示，如果没提示，就凭ibm这无理的态度，不理他。
如果注册时就有提示，那我觉得你这是有恶意注册的嫌疑。 |
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paulagent 2015-05-30 17:15:02 +08:00
@ceclinux 没有界限的，这玩意要是500强一类的法务部没看到也就没看到，看到了也未必会追究。但是人家要是追究。这种官司一般会赢得。
这就好比一个法律条文，警察不抓，大家都可以犯，但是抓a不抓b，这时候a也不能在法庭说，你凭什么抓我，不抓b呢，他也犯了这事。 |
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paulagent 2015-05-30 17:18:15 +08:00
@fengjianxinghun 这个没什么解释，ibm.cn存在，那ibm不找域名所有者也是ibm的自由，换句话说，这个域名所有者用这个域名也没啥用，这个域名是不能有任何和ibm相关的信息，他只是挂了一个出售的消息，可能ibm懒得管，种种原因，如果他把这个网站做成类似ibm.com.cn或者含有任何有关ibm产品的信息的话，律师函分分钟送到家门口。
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falcon05 2015-05-30 20:01:01 +08:00 via iPhone
报价再说
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m939594960 2015-05-30 20:04:59 +08:00 via Android
阿里云开个服务器 然后备案
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ve2x 2015-05-30 20:09:49 +08:00
fuck him back
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hk24v2 2015-05-30 21:06:26 +08:00
搞的我好想去注册一个cpc.party 进可卖给我党，退可申请politics移民
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publicID001 2015-05-30 21:25:15 +08:00 via Android
@hk24v2 真的可以吗，我有一个exit.party的
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sobigfish 2015-05-30 21:34:34 +08:00
icann对nGtld的关于商标域名有非常完善的规则，他们没有在之前商标独占的时期注册就表明了他们不想注册了，而.party nic又没有把这个域名放入hold的列表内，只要lz不做商标侵权的事他们就拿你没办法。
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bellchu 2015-05-30 22:02:27 +08:00
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102516949 2015-05-30 23:43:04 +08:00
我注册了一个sony.party，怎么没什么事....
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gdm 2015-05-31 02:13:42 +08:00
注了某外国执政党和另一国前执政党的缩写，还用第一个域名弄了该国元首的全名缩写邮箱发给自己玩儿，暂时没人联系
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gangsta 2015-05-31 03:29:11 +08:00 via iPhone
突然想起很多年以前whitehouse.com还是个porn站呢，十几年的老网民应该都知道吧…
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NighterDog 2015-05-31 04:07:54 +08:00 via Android
@Fly1993 =￣ω￣=
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xxaiyy 2015-05-31 09:40:27 +08:00
好复杂~英语没学好啊~
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POPOEVER 2015-05-31 13:14:39 +08:00
公司法务的律师函而已，原则上说不去理会也没什么
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402645707 2015-05-31 18:14:14 +08:00 via Android
你直接回你在中国 这里的ibm改叫lenovo了
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chilaoqi 2015-06-01 13:49:14 +08:00
@gangsta happysky.com 也是，前段时间看是央视的少儿节目《快乐星球》的首页。
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wilsonxyz 2015-06-05 01:21:46 +08:00
其实因为你在中国。如果你在美国，他完全可以起诉你，要的还不仅仅是这个域名。
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fengjianxinghun OP ibm给我回信了。。
你好， 谢谢你的回信。秉持着公平的原则，IBM现向你提出如下提议从你处购买ibm.party这个域名： 我方将支付你合理的注册该域名的实际开销，不超过美金$100，以换取该域名的所有权。 如果你同意接受我方的开价，请尽快将你的回价（不超过美金$100) 告知我们。谢谢！ IBM 知识产权法律部 Hello, Thank you for your response. According to the principle of fairness, IBM is offering to purchase the domain name ibm.party from you based on the following terms: We will provide you with reasonable out of pocket expenses for registering this domain name, not to exceed $100 USD, in exchange for the ownership of the domain name. If you agree to our offer, please inform us of your acceptance price (not to exceed $100 USD) as soon as possible. Thank you! IBM IP Law Department |
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